ronggo: that didn't answer my question

i got your point kok ronggo. you are gifted in languages
exception selalu ada donk. di lingkunganku pun saya blom pernah menemukan anak berumur di bawah 15 taon yang sudah mulai kuliah (although recently i learned from a news outlet that there was a 12-year old prodigy yang mulai kuliah di almamaterku). but yea, i got your point kok and nothing wrong for shaka to draw from his own experience either. menurutku kalian sama2 mempunyai valid points kok.