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    Quote Originally Posted by danalingga View Post
    Gue pernah nemu forum silat dimana ada juga cerita silat baru (yang dibuat fan kalo nggak salah).
    Dan cerita silat baru itu seru juga, cuman karena kesibukan dalam dunia nyata, akhirnya gue lupa websitenya.

    Kalo e book khopingho gue lengkap nih.

    penggemar kho ping ho ya bro?... udah pernah baca cerita dari pengarang2 yg lain?

    aku juga suka kho ping ho, tapi yg aku koleksi ebooknya cuma 2 seri itu: Seri Bukek Siansu dan Pedang kayu harum..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandalf View Post
    Jadi pengen belajar membaca huruf Han nih...
    Pengen baca revisi-revisi terakhir-nya Jinyong.
    Kalau itu sih bisa lama banget prosesnya. Orang bisa baca huruf belum tentu paham makna kalimatnya. Jadi bukan cuma harus belajar membaca huruf saja, tetapi juga harus menguasai tata bahasa dan kelaziman penggunaan dalam kalimat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupo View Post
    penggemar kho ping ho ya bro?... udah pernah baca cerita dari pengarang2 yg lain?

    aku juga suka kho ping ho, tapi yg aku koleksi ebooknya cuma 2 seri itu: Seri Bukek Siansu dan Pedang kayu harum..
    Iya bro, penggemar kho ping ho saya kecil dulu.

    Sepertinya sih sudah banyak baca karya pengarang lain soale seingatku setiap nemu cerita silat sih saya baca sih. Cuman emang yg saya paling inget ya kho ping ho.

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    gw sudah download pendekar budiman n lagi baca penasaran sama anaknya sim long
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    Pendekar budiman itu si pisau terbang lie sun hoan kan? Emang ada disebut tentang anaknya simlong? Aku bacanya udah lamaaa... jadi ga terlalu ingat detailnya..:p

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    A Fei katanya itu anaknya sim long.
    gw baru baca sedikit jadi blon sampe ke pembahasan itu.
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    Ooo... si afei toh, seingatku ga ada keterangan tentang asal usulnya. Nanti kalau ada waktu aku baca ulang deh, jadi penasaran hehehe...

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    ga disebutin jelas sih klo a fei anak haramnya sim long-pek fifi, tapi banyak petunjuk yang mengarah kesana

    petunjuk yang paling jelas ada disini :

    Asal-usul Sim Ang-yap sendiri benar-benar misterius.
    Menurut cerita, dia adalah keturunan dari pendekar nomor satu di jaman dulu, Sim Long.
    Juga dikabarkan bahwa sahabat karib Siau Li Tam-hoa (Li Sun-hoan) dan jago pedang tercepat di
    dunia Ah Fei, adalah leluhurnya.
    Sejarah hidup Ah Fei sendiri merupakan teka-teki, dan karena itu pula kisah hidup Sim Ang-yap
    juga merupakan teka-teki. Dia sendiri tidak pernah bercerita tentang asal-usulnya. Orang
    mencantumkan dirinya dalam Bu-lim-si-toakongcu karena dia dibesarkan dalam keluarga Yap.
    Keluarga Yap yang dimaksud tentu saja keluarga Yap Kay. Dan Yap Kay adalah murid Siau Li
    Tam-hoa. - Siapakah Siau Li si Pisau Terbang? Siapa yang tidak tahu tentang pendekar besar itu?
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    ^^ itu kutipan dari buku yg mana bro? kayaknya aku belom pernah denger nama Sim Ang-yap

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    Figuran di HARKAT PENDEKAR

    Tega emang GuLong, karakter dengan asal usul sehebat itu cm jadi figuran

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    HARKAT PENDEKAR ya.. pantesan, ga tahu.. ternyata blom pernah baca..:p
    cari aah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingform View Post
    gw pernah tuh punya e-book nya legend of the condor heroes
    tapi akhirnya ga gw baca karena masih pake ejaan lama.....
    kalo gak salah ,, dulunya juga ada komiknya kan ya ,, terpampang waktu sd cuma gak pernah gw sentuh

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    Quote Originally Posted by hundreddaya View Post
    kalo gak salah ,, dulunya juga ada komiknya kan ya ,, terpampang waktu sd cuma gak pernah gw sentuh
    kalau buat saya, lebih seru baca novelnya, imajinasinya lebih bebas...

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    Katanya Yi Tian Du Long ada edisi 2-nya ya? Yg pas endingnya si Zhou ZhiRuo ada bsama-sama WuJi dan Zhao Min.

    Ada yg punyakah??
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    maksudnya yg zho zhiruo datang pada saat pernikahan wuji dan zhao min, dan mengajukan permohonan ke 3 nya, yaitu supaya wuji tidak menikahi zhao min?.. itu ada di edisi revisi.

    Yi Tian Tu Long Ji [倚天屠龙记] di revisi sampai 3 kali, pertama ditulis tahun 1967 kemudian di revisi pada terbitan tahun 1970.. dan direvisi kembali pada terbitan terakhir tahun 2005.

    saya cuma punya/baca yg edisi aslinya, dan belom baca edisi revisinya.
    perubahan yg terjadi di revisi ke 2 dan ke 3 nya sbb



    Spoiler for revisi 2:


    (1) The jade-faced fire monkey
    This creature has been taken out of the 2nd edition completely.

    (a) In the original, Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu were attacked by a bear when they first arrived at the cave that they later used as their home. They promptly killed the bear, but they were then pursued and chased up a tree by 13 other angry bears! Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu were eventually rescued by a cute-looking 3-foot-tall monkey with blood-red fur and a snow-white face. This monkey was the nemesis of the bears, for it liked eating the brain of bears. It would tear the heads of the bears apart and scoop out the brains in a blink.
    After rescuing Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu, the jade-faced fire monkey displayed its head-tearing skills and offered the raw bear-brains that it obtained to the couple. Not wanting to offend the monkey, the couple ate the brains. It turned out to be quite tasty.
    Ed: The couple actually found the bear-brains of tastier than those of the goat or the fish after they got over the initial disgust and apprehension towards them.
    In the revised edition, Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu were attacked by only two bears, which they despatched by themselves.

    (b) The monkey was immune to fire. When Zhang Cuishan came up with the idea of using the active volcano as a source of fire, they could not get close enough to it for their tinder to light up. The monkey had to carry the tinder all the way to the crater for them. After the fire was taken successfully back to the bear-cave, the monkey jumped into it and rolled playfully around.
    In the revised edition, Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu gave up on the idea of obtaining fire from the volcano, and used a flint with their sword instead.
    Ed: The couple picked up a lava-stone from the ground and struck their sword against it in a bid to obtain sparks.

    (c) The monkey was Xie Xun's hunting partner for a short time. When it became too efficient at hunting bears, Xie Xun insisted that it play with young Zhang Wuji instead.
    (d) The monkey was eventually poisoned to death by Daiqisi (Taykis) -- who was also known as the Golden-Flower Granny and the Purple-Clothed Dragon King.
    Ed: Daiqisi met the monkey when she went to Ice-Fire Island to see Xie Xun.

    (2) The young Zhang Wuji
    The young Zhang Wuji in the first edition strikes me as being generally less... nice, and more crafty.

    (a) When Xie Xun told his tale, young Zhang Wuji vowed to seek Cheng Kun for revenge on his behalf. Since Cheng Kun killed all of Xie Xun's family, Zhang Wuji wanted to do the same to Cheng Kun's family in return. This earned him a harsh scolding from Zhang Cuishan.
    Ed: This exchange/scene did not exist in the revised edition.

    (b) Young Zhang Wuji wanted revenge for his parents' deaths in the original story. He carefully memorised his "enemies" appearances, and actively asked Zhang Sanfeng to teach him martial arts, so he could take his revenge. At the same time, he was reluctant to learn the Shaolin Nine-Yang Technique due to the role that the Shaolin monks played in the tragedy.
    In the revised edition, young Zhang Wuji never wanted revenge for his parents' deaths.
    Ed: In a heart-wrenching scene towards the end of Chapter 10 (after Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu had committed suicide) in the revised edition, the young Zhang Wuji shouted: "I do not want redress! I do not want redress! I just want Father and Mother to come alive again. Second Uncle, let us spare all those evil people and think of a way to rescue Father and Mother instead."

    (3) The Nine-Yang and Nine-Yin Manuals
    In the first edition, both Nine-Yang and Nine-Yin were written by Dharma (Da Mo). They were of equal power and complementary in use, yet each was capable of countering the other. The inner power of Nine-Yang was deeper than that of Nine-Yin, but lacked the latter's strange moves. Zhang Sanfeng was apparently unaware of the Nine-Yin, but theorised about its existence from the large gaps he saw in the Nine-Yang. He developed his Taiji techniques in part to fill these gaps. Ed: Please refer to the text excerpts below.
    However, the complementary nature of the Nine-Yang and the Nine-Yin was contradicted later when Zhang Wuji tried to purge Zhou Zhiruo of poison. Zhang Wuji said that the two forms of energy clashed.

    Ed: In the first edition, Yu Lianzhou told Zhang Cuishan and Yin Susu: "According to our teacher, the martial arts techniques of our Wudang School are founded primarily on a book known as 'The Nine-Yang Manual'. However, our teacher was too young when he heard Grandteacher Jue Yuan recite the book. The process was also too rushed for him to remember everything, so the resultant marital arts techniques used in our school do indeed have their shortfalls. The Nine-Yang Manual originated from the venerated Dharma, but as our teacher delved deeper into it, he found an increasing number of gaps in the text, as if the manual was only half of a whole. There should be another volume called 'The Nine-Yin Manual' to complement it. But where could our teacher start looking for the Nine-Yin Manual, when he has not even learnt the Nine-Yang in its entirety? Besides, no one knows whether the Nine-Yin actually exists or not. Elder Dharma was a rare and talented man from India, but our teacher is not necessarily beneath him in intelligence and resourcefulness. Since he is unable to obtain these manuals, could he not re-create them himself? Hence, he spends time in closed-door meditation every year with the desire to bring honour to our ancestors and prosperity to our descendants, as the eastern reflection of Dharma in the west ..."

    In Chapter 9 of the revised edition, this passage has been replaced with the following:
    Yu Lianzhou said, "According to our teacher, the martial arts techniques of our Wudang School are founded primarly on a book known as 'The Nine-Yang Manual'. However, he was very young when our Grandteacher Jue Yuan passed the passages in the book on to him. Furthermore, he did not know any martial arts. On his part, Grandteacher Jue Yuan did not deliberately set out to instruct our teacher in anything, for he just repeated the things that he had read in the book. As a result, there have always been defects in the pugilistic techniques of our school. According to Grandteacher Jue Yuan, the Nine-Yang Manual originated from the venerated Dharma, the founder of the Shaolin Clan. However, our teacher has found this statement increasingly untrue as he delves deeper into the passages. Firstly, the essence of the passages are very different from the martial arts foundations of Shaolin. In fact, it seems closer to our Taoist school of pugilistic arts. Secondly, the Nine-Yang was not written in Sanskrit, but in Chinese characters sandwiched between the lines of the Sanskrit Lankavatara Sutra. Elder Dharma might have been an extremely learned man, but coming from India, it was very unlikely that he had a thorough understanding of Chinese characters. Therefore, he could not have written such an important book on martial arts. Even if he did, why did he squeeze the work between the lines of another book, instead of using a separate set of paper?"
    Nodding in agreement, Zhang Cuishan asked, "So what has our tecaher concluded from this?"
    "Nothing much actually," answered Yu Lianzhou. "All he says is that the Nine-Yang Manual might have been ghost-written in Elder Dharma's name, by a distinguished Shaolin monk of a later generation. Our teacher does not have a full and complete copy of the Nine-Yang, but he thinks that it is possible to fill the gaps in himself. Hence, he spends a lot of time behind closed doors every year to develop a school of pugilistic studies that is totally different from those of the other clans and organisations."
    The paragraph about Dharma being the writer of the Nine-Yang Manual was also removed from Chapter 16 of the revised edition, where Zhang Wuji discovers the text in the abdomen of an ancient white ape.
    Consequently, there was no contradiction when Zhang Wuji's Nine-Yang clashed against Zhou Zhiruo's Nine-Yin in Chapter 31.

    (4) The 18 Dragon-Defeating Palms (Xianglong Shiba Zhang)
    In the revised edition, when young Zhang Wuji was grabbed by a beggar wielding a poisonous snake, he was rescued by Yin Susu providing a distraction (slapping Zhang Cuishan, tossing sailors overboard, etc) and Yu Lianzhou taking advantage of it.
    In the original edition, things were played out in considerably different way. The young Zhang Wuji lashed backwards with a palm, which struck the beggar in the back and paralysed him. Yu Lianzhou's attempts to free the beggar left him (the beggar) screaming in pain. When questioned about the move, Zhang Wuji said that it was 'Shen Long Bai Wei', or 'The Mystical Dragon Swings its Tail' from the 18 Dragon-Defeating Palms! Zhang Wuji's strike was supposed to be fatal within two hours, but Yu Lianzhou and Zhang Cuishan spent all night saving the beggar's life. But the beggar's martial arts were ruined.

    It turned out that Zhang Wuji learnt the technique from Xie Xun, who picked it up from 'an old man' (Ed: 'a recluse of the lakes and the rivers', to be exact). Zhang Wuji knew only three moves: Shen Long Bai Wei (The Mystical Dragon Swings its Tail), Jian Long Zai Tian (Watching the Dragon in the Fields) and Kang Long You Hui (The Proud Dragon Has Regrets). When Zhang Wuji sparred briefly with Zhang Sanfeng, the latter praised the first two moves as 'good', but the last one as 'inadequate'. Apparently, the 'old man' who taught Xie Xun did not fully understand how to use these palm techniques. Zhang Wuji used the palms extensively during his youth.
    Ed: In the revised edition, young Zhang Wuji did not know any of the 18 Dragon-Defeating Palms. In fact, Xie Xun hardly taught him any practical moves, preferring instead to concentrate on getting him to memorise as many steps and mnemonics as he could. The only set of techniques that Zhang Wuji could execute to satisfactory effect was the 'Wudang Long Fist', which he learnt briefly from his father on the raft to China from Ice-Fire Island.
    It was also explained that the 18 Palms were said to be lost since Guo Jing had no talented successors except the one-armed Yang Guo, who could not learn the technique because it required the use both palms. Zhang Sanfeng also said the palm techniques were lost when Zhang Wuji asked to learn the 'Kang Long You Hui' properly. Later, we see the Elder for Martial Arts Instruction (Ed: 'Chuanggong Zhanglao') of the Beggars' Union, using 12 of the 18 Palms...

    Ed: Since Zhang Wuji did not know the 18 Palms in the revised edition, the related paragraphs were deleted.


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    Spoiler for revisi 2:


    (5) The visit to Shaolin by Zhang Sanfeng and the young Zhang Wuji

    In the original edition, the leader of the Wushan Gang appeared during the visit and asked for Xie Xun's whereabouts. The monks pointed to Zhang Wuji, and in the confrontation that followed, the leader attacked the boy. With Zhang Sanfeng's assistance, Zhang Wuji sent the Wushan leader flying into the upper branches of a tree and knocked him down with a stone. Then, the boy caught the man as he hurtled downwards and set him down on his feet, only to slam him to the ground again.
    Impressed, the monks agreed to trade the Shaolin Nine-Yang for the Wudang Nine-Yang AND the Thirteen Stances of Taiji. Furthermore, they made Zhang Wuji vow not to teach the Shaolin Nine-Yang to anyone or use it against Shaolin disciples. Zhang Wuji was reluctant at first, as it was an unfair exchange that would prevent him from taking revenge. But Zhang Sanfeng pointed out that he (Zhang Wuji) would die without taking revenge anyway, if he did not agree to the terms of the trade. Then, Zhang Wuji reasoned that he could easily use other martial arts techniques to kill Shaolin disciples when the time came.
    Subsequently, Zhang Wuji was sent to the monk Yuan Zhen (i.e. the man Cheng Kun), who was the only one who knew the Shaolin Nine-Yang technique. Cheng Kun hid behind a veil, and recited the words of the Shaolin Nine-Yang in a rapid gush. He did not expect Zhang Wuji to remember much, but the boy had developed (Ed an extremely keen auditory memory after memorising a variety of martial arts mnemonics from Xie Xun.
    Surprised, Cheng Kun 'helped' Zhang Wuji to unblock the Eight Extraordinary Channels ('Qi Jing Ba Mai') in his body. This would normally be very beneficial, but by clearing them out, Cheng Kun allowed the icy toxins from the Xuan Ming Palms to seep deeply into the boy's body. Later, Zhang Sanfeng indicated that he was not sure whether the act was unintentional or malicious. However, Hu Qingniu (Ed: the Healing Sage of Butterfly Valley) pointed out that an expert in internal energy would be able to sense the toxins easily, so the act should be a purely malicious one.
    After Zhang Sanfeng had finished writing out a copy of the Wudang Nine-Yang and the Thirteen Stances of Taiji, he handed the manuscript to Kong Wen, the abbot, who in turn passed it to a young secular student of Kong Zhi. This student turned out to be Chen Youliang! Chen Youliang read through the manuscript and proclaimed the contents to be Shaolin tehcniques. He recited it from memory as 'evidence' because the Shaolin monks intended to deny having learnt anything from Wudang! When the monks returned to manuscript, Zhang Sanfeng gave Kong Zhi a jolt that sent him staggering backwards and knocked Chen Youliang out of the pavilion. Then, he tore the paper to shreds. Having witnessed the power of Zhang Sanfeng's martial arts, the monks naturally hoped that Chen Youliang correctly remembered everything that was written!
    Ed: All the scenes described above were deleted from the revised edition. In their place was a brief passage on the Shaolin monks' refusal to exchange the Shaolin Nine-Yang for the Wudang Nine-Yang offered by Zhang Sanfeng.
    Also, Taiji (in any form or stance) was not mentioned or displayed until Chapter 24 of revised edition. Chen Youliang did not appear until Chapter 31. His position was also changed from being a student of Kong Zhi to that of Yuan Zhen (i.e. Cheng Kun).

    (6) Ending
    In the original edition, Zhou Zhiruo accompanied Zhang Wuji to Wudang, where Zhang Sanfeng confronted her with a sword and declared that he could not allow Guo Xiang's legacy to end in such a disastrous manner, especially after Zhou Zhiruo had so flamboyantly displayed her cruel martial arts techniques in a bid for supremacy. Zhou Zhiruo then turned and asked Zhang Wuji which clan he belonged to. Zhang Wuji admitted having learnt martial arts from many sources, but he did not really belong to any clan. So Zhou Zhiruo invoked the single wish that Zhang Wuji owed her, and asked him to take over the leadership of the E-mei School.
    After Zhang Wuji agreed, he received a manual of Guo Xiang's martial arts techniques and the two broken halves of the Heaven Sword. Then, he moved to Mount E-mei and resigned from the leadership of the Ming Sect. Zhou Zhiruo became a nun. The story ended with Zhao Ming (Ed: see item #7 below) invoking her third and last wish, i.e. to have Zhang Wuji draw her eyebrows.
    Ed: In the revised edition, Zhou Zhiruo did not give up her leadership of the E-mei School. Zhang Wuji resigned from the leadership of the Ming Sect after being tricked by Zhu Yuanzhang (the alleged Ming Sect freedom-fighter who eventually became the first emperor of the Ming Dynasty). As Zhao Min (Ed: see item #7 below) invoked her third and last wish of having her eyebrows drawn, Zhou Zhiruo appeared and told them that she would use her single wish on the day of Zhang Wuji's wedding with Zhao Min.

    (7) Miscellaneous

    (a) The (Ed female Mongolian prefect who fell for Zhang Wuji was named Zhao Ming (meaning "bright/clear") in the original work. Her name was changed to Zhao Min (meaning "quick/intelligent") in the revised edition.

    (b) Zhou Zhiruo was the daughter of failed Ming Sect revolutionary, Zhou Ziwang, in the original. Ed: In the revised edition, she was the daughter of a hapless boatman on the River Han.

    (c) Ed: The sixth disciple of Zhang Sanfeng was named Yin Liheng in the original, but Yin Liting in the revised. 'Liheng' came from a phrase in the Book of Changes ('Yi Jing' or 'I-Ching'), which roughly meant "smooth profits". During a revision of the text, Jin Yong changed the name to 'Liting' (meaning "Pear Pavilion") to match the poetic names of the other Wudang disciples (Yuanqiao - "Faraway Bridge"; Lianzhou - "Lotus Boat"; Daiyan - "Formidable Rock"; Songxi - "Pine Stream"; Cuishan - "Emerald Mountain" and Shenggu - "Sounding Valley").

    (d) The "Thousand-Spider and Ten-Thousand-Poison Hand" (Ed: 'Qianzhu Wandu Shou' used by Yin Li) in the revised edition was originally called the "Thousand-Spider Household-Terminating Hand" (Ed: 'Qianzhu Juehu Shou').

    (e) Ed: The "Dark Yin Finger" (or 'Xuan Yin Zhi') used by Yuan Zhen in Chapter 19 of the revised edition was originally called "Illusionary Yin Finger" (or 'Huan Yin Zhi').

    (f) Yang Dingtian (Ed: the 33rd leader of the Ming Sect) in the revision edition was originally named Yang Potian.

    (g) The name originally assigned to Zhang Wuji by Zhang Cuishan was "Zhang Nianci", the same "Nianci" as Mu Nianci, the wife of Yang Kang and mother of Yang Guo in LOCH and ROCH respectively. Ed: In the revised edition, Zhang Cuishan did not name his son at all. Instead, he requested Xie Xun to name the child.

    (h) Ed: In the first edition, Yin Susu called her son "little hero Xie Wuji" after the boy struck the beggar who tried to threaten him with a poisonous snake. As a result, Zhang Cuishan had to explain to Yu Lianzhou that his son had taken Xie Xun's surname after being adopted.
    This passage was removed in the revised edition. Instead, Xie Xun uttered these words to the boy before he and his family left Ice-Fire Island: "Wuji, when you get home, remember to call yourself 'Zhang Wuji'. The name Xie Wuji is only to be kept in your heart, and you must never ever say it with your mouth."

    (i) Ed: In the first edition, Zhang Wuji caught and ate red frogs from the pond in the nameless valley. These frogs helped to reduce the toxicity of the Xuan Ming Palms in his body before he found a complete cure in the Nine-Yang Manual. In the revised edition, there were no red frogs. Instead, the boy caught and ate an ordinary type of white-coloured fish from the pond.

    (j) Ed: The first edition was titled "Tian Jian Long Dao", or "The Heaven Sword and the Dragon Sabre". It contained 112 chapters in 28 volumes of 4 chapters each. The revised edition was called "Yi Tian Tu Long Ji", or literally "Relying on Heaven for the Slaughter of the Dragon". The content was re-arranged into 40 chapters in 4 volumes of 10 chapters each.

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    eh, bukannya Jiu Yin Shen Gong itu dikarang oleh Huang Shang gitu? dan klo melihat2 revisi2 yg ada, kayanya gw punya eBook yg original nih.

    klo cerita kwee ceng sih gw yakin buku gw ori, masih diketik pake mesin ketik soalnya. di jual laku berapa ye ?
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    betul.. Jiu yin yg bikin huang shang... inget aja si bro... .

    tapi kalau jiu yang .. rumornya dibuat oleh da mo / tat mo, dari yg saya baca2 di forum wuxia fiction spcnet

    Spoiler for 9 ying sheng gong - 9 yang sheng gong:


    Jiu Yin Zhen Jing - Nine Yin Manual

    Jiu Yin Zhen Jing was compiled by Huang Shang, a high-ranking official who served one of the Song emperors who reigned between the time of LOCH. According to the history that Zhou Botong told Guo Jing in LOCH while they were holed up in the cave on Peach Blossom Island, the Song emperor had asked Huang Shang, a man who was equally gifted in both the martial and literary arts, to compile a book from thousands of loose scrolls containing information on everything from inner power to healing techniques to Taoist philosophy.

    This compendium became the first volume of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. Sometime later, the Song emperor ordered Huang Shang to lead a Song army to eradicate a group of anti-government rebels who practiced a strange, foreign religion called Zoroasterianism. This group, the Ming Cult, was headquartered at a mountain fortress called Guangming Ding. The Song army proved inadequate to take the fortress, but Huang Shang fought the Ming Cult's most powerful fighters one-on-one and managed to defeat and kill nearly all of them until exhaustion finally forced him to retreat.

    The Ming Cult, seeking revenge for the havoc that Huang Shang had unleashed upon them, sent their most powerful surviving martial artists to murder Huang Shang's family. An enraged Huang Shang vowed to eradicate the Ming Cult. For the next 40 years, Huang Shang dedicated himself to finding methods capable of neutralizing all of the Ming Cult's kungfu. Additionally, because many of the Ming Cult members were affiliated with such established fighter groups as Shaolin, Kunlun, Gongdong, Gai Bang, the Duan Royal Family of Dali, etc., Huang Shang had to develop techniques capable of neutralizing the kungfu of these traditional sects as well.

    Finally, Huang Shang succeeded in accomplishing this monumental task. Unfortunately, during the intervening years, his enemies had all died of other causes. Confronted with this reality, all Huang Shang could do was make a second compilation based on his 40 years of study; this became the second volume of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing.

    The two volumes of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing were not heard from again for many years, until the first Hua Shan Luen Jian. The Five Greats - Eastern Heretic Huang Yaoshi, Western Venom Ouyang Feng, Southern Emperor Duan Zhixing, Northern Beggar Hong Qigong, and Central Divinity Wang Chongyang - agreed that the winner of the tournament would gain sole possession of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing.

    After a fierce, seven-day battle, Wang Chongyang won out and became the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing's owner. It is unknown how much of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing Wang Chongyang learned in his remaining lifetime, which did not extend for very long after his victory at the Hua Shan Luen Jian. He did incorporate some of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing's underlying principles into the fighting techniques of his organization, the Chunjen Bai, and he did leave a portion of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing capable of defeating the Gumu Bai's kungfu in his former lover and bitter rival Lin Chaoying's tomb in a final gesture of one-ups-manship.

    Before passing away, Wang Chongyang left the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing in the care of his younger sect brother, Zhou Botong, beseeching him not to let it fall into the wrong hands. Wang Chongyang also stipulated that no member of the Chunjen Bai would be permitted to learn any of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. (A stipulation that Zhou Botong would ignore years later.) Western Venom Ouyang Feng attempted to steal the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, but was thwarted by Wang Chongyang himself shortly before the latter's death.

    After Wang Chongyang's death, Zhou Botong traveled to Peach Blossom Island to warn Eastern Heretic Huang Yaoshi to not try to steal the manual. Huang Yaoshi's wife, who had the gift of photographic memory, memorized the entire text of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing upon one viewing, then tricked Zhou Botong into thinking that the manual was a worthless fraud.

    In a fit of anger, Zhou Botong destroyed one of the two volumes of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. Huang Yaoshi's wife copied the entire text for her husband from memory. This text was promptly stolen by Chen Xuanfeng and Mei Chaofeng, two of Huang Yaoshi's students, who were in love and, forbidden from marrying by their master, planned to elope.

    Mei Chaofeng and Chen Xuanfeng fled from Peach Blossom Island with the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. Huang Yaoshi, angered at their betrayal, crippled the legs of his remaining students: Lu Chengfeng, Qu Lingfeng, and Feng Mofeng.

    Huang Yaoshi's wife then attempted to produce a second copy of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing for her husband, but the strain of the task was too much for the pregnant woman, who died after giving birth to their daughter, Huang Rong. Henceforth, Huang Yaoshi vowed never to learn the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, and to destroy anyone who dared to learn from the book.

    Meanwhile, Zhou Botong had learned that he had been fooled by Huang Yaoshi. For the next decade and a half, he would be an unwanted guest on Peach Blossom Island, repeatedly harassing Huang Yaoshi to turn the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing over to him.

    Mei Chaofeng and Chen Xuanfeng, not fully understanding the complex techniques of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, were only able to master one aspect of the book, the deadly and cruel Jiu Yin Bai Gu Zhao. Moreover, they were constantly being pursued by their enemies, which included the Chunjen Bai, their former Peach Blossom Island sect brothers, and such heroes as the Jiang Nan Qi Guai.

    It was in Mongolia that Chen Xuanfeng was killed by the six-year old Guo Jing, the newly recruited student of the Jiang Nan Qi Guai. Mei Chaofeng then took the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing text that Chen Xuanfeng had tattooed onto the skin of his chest.

    Years later, a battle between Mei Chaofeng and Northern Beggar Hong Qigong left this copy of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing in Guo Jing's possession. When Guo Jing arrived on Peach Blossom Island to seek Huang Rong's hand in marriage, Zhou Botong forced Guo Jing to memorize the entire text of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. After Huang Yaoshi and Zhou Botong destroyed the remaining printed copies of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing (the original second volume still in Zhou Botong's possession plus the copy on Chen Xuanfeng's skin) in the wake of a bitter argument, the complete Jiu Yin Zhen Jing existed only in the memories of Zhou Botong and Guo Jing!

    Western Venom Ouyang Feng, still seeking supremacy in the martial arts world, took turns forcing Guo Jing and later Huang Rong, who had learned the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing from Guo Jing, to produce a copy for him. Guo Jing produced a false copy of the manual for Ouyang Feng, with lines missing or even rewritten. The result was a temporary boost in Ouyang Feng's power that briefly made him the world's greatest fighter, but which ultimately cost him his sanity.

    Over the years, Guo Jing studied and practiced the principles of Jiu Yin Zhen Jing. Eventually, his studies, combined with his extensive kungfu knowledge (which included the Gai Bang's mighty Xiang Long Shi Ba Zhang, Zhou Botong's Left/Right Hand Technique and Vacant Fist, Quanzhen Jiao's inner power and xinggong, and the diverse kungfu of the Jiang Nan Qi Guai), enabled him to become arguably the world's greatest fighter by the time he was in his 30s.

    Guo Jing, his wife Huang Rong, and their allies defended Xiang Yang Fortress from the Mongol invaders for many years. Ultimately, seeing that the fortress was undefendable, Guo Jing copied out manuals of all his kungfu, including Jiu Yin Zhen Jing, and placed these into an indestructible sword that he had forged with the metal of his nephew's Iron Sword, which had once belonged to the legendary invincible Sword Demon Dugu Qiubai.

    The Heaven Sword became Guo Jing's legacy to his youngest daughter Guo Xiang, who decades later founded the E'Mei Bai. A century later, it was the fourth-generation E'Mei Bai leader, Zhou Zhiruo, who uncovered the secret of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing and used the Jiu Yin Bai Gu Zhao to wreak havoc upon the pugilistic world of her time. The fate of the Jiu Yin Zhen Jing from that point on is unaccounted for.

    Jiu Yang Zhen Jing - Nine Yang Manual

    Jiu Yang Zhen Jing's history is far more sketchy. It has been rumored that Shaolin's founder, Da Mo, was the creator of the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing, but this has never been verified. The manual's existence was unknown to the pugilistic world until the end of the ROCH storyline, when the Mongolian thugs Yin Kexi and Xiao Xiangzi stole the manual from Shaolin Temple.

    Shaolin librarian Jue Yuan and his young disciple, Zhang Junbao pursued Yin Kexi and Xiao Xiangzi to Hua Shan, where the newly-named New Five Greats (Eastern Heretic Huang Yaoshi, Western Crazy Yang Guo, Southern Monk Yideng, Northern Hero Guo Jing, and Central Child Zhou Botong) were paying their respects to fallen Greats Northern Beggar Hong Qigong and Western Venom Ouyang Feng.

    With the help of Yang Guo, Zhang Junbao was able to thwart Yin Kexi and Xiao Xiangzi, but the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing was nowhere to be found. Unbeknownst to all present at Mountain Hua, Yin Kexi had hidden the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing in the abdomen of a large gorilla. On his deathbed, Yin Kexi made a confession to Kunlun Bai elder He Zudao, but Yin Kexi slurred the final statement and instead of hearing "The book is in the gorilla", He Zudao heard "The book is in the oil", which mystified everyone for a century.

    Jue Yuan the Monk had memorized the text of the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing, and before his death three years after the book was lost, he managed a deathbed recital of the text that Zhang Junbao, Guo Xiang, and a high-ranking Shaolin monk named Mo Shi were each able to memorize various parts of. Zhang Junbao and Guo Xiang were able to incorporate various principles of the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing into their personal kungfu and the kungfu of the sects they eventually founded, Wudang Bai and E'Mei Bai, as did Wu Se for Shaolin.

    NO ONE, however, possessed the complete Jiu Yang Zhen Jing again for a century until the young hero Zhang Wuji, son of Zhang Sanfeng's student Zhang Chuisan and future leader of the Ming Cult, found the gorilla, amazingly still alive, that Yin Kexi had hidden the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing in a century earlier and liberated the books from concealment. The 15-year old Zhang Wuji spent the next five years learning the Jiu Yang Zhen Jing, and upon his completion of his studies at age 20, became one of the most powerful men of his time.



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    klo cerita kwee ceng sih gw yakin buku gw ori, masih diketik pake mesin ketik soalnya. di jual laku berapa ye ?
    yg saduran boe beng tjoe kah? udah langka itu bro... keren...

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    iya itu mksdnya yg pas ending.

    Jd pas Zhao Min mminta alisnya digambar, tiba-tiba Zhou ZhiRou muncul dan bilang bhw dia akan mminta ssuatu pas hari pnikahannya WuJi.

    Thanks banget buat list revisinya.
    That's what i'm looking for.

    Kl ga salah Seri HSDS yg versi terbaru ngikutin revisi 2.
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    ^^ sama-sama kop

    ini list perubahan di revisi 3 nya..

    Spoiler for revisi 3:


    1) Reverend Wuse speaks on behalf of Zhang Junbao at Shaolin, saying that he was reponsible for giving away those iron Arhats to Guo Xiang. He added that if anyone should be blamed it should be him and not Zhang Junbao. However, the old monk of the Spiritual Zen Hall was adamant in saying that Zhang Junbao learnt Shaolin martial arts without permission and should still be punished. Abbot Tianming suggested that Wuse, Jueyuan and Zhang Junbao should go to the Dharma Hall and all of them would discuss how to punish all 3 of them. Jueyuan feared for the worst and took Guo Xiang and Zhang Junbao and ran away.

    2) Yin Susu and other higher ranked people in Tianying Sect knew who Xie Xun was. They knew he was a guardian lord of the Ming cult.

    3) Xie Xun's son was 3 years old when he was killed by Yuanzhen (Cheng Kun), in the earlier editions Xie Wuji was 1 years old and lead to some time discontinuity. (To be honest, I am not sure what that discontinuity was in the earlier editions, I did not notice that error in the past).

    4) The supposed battle between Shaolin and Wudang has changed somewhat. The original plan was that 6 Shaolin monks v.s. 6 Wudang disciples. Wudang would use their famous sphere formation. However, Yu Lianzhou was still weakend by that exchange of palms with He Biweng and Zhang Cuishan was too distraught at that time. Reason, Yuanye was scolding Zhang Cuishan for killing Dou Dajin's family and for blinding one of his eyes and the left eyes of Yuanyin and Yuanxin. Yuanye kept his anger in control while his teacher (Kongzhi) and his martial arts uncles (abbot Kongwen and reverend Kongxing) were speaking. But when the battle was to start he could not help himself from venting his anger and scolding Zhang Cuishan for being an utter disgrace to Zhang Sanfeng and Wudang. He said that a real man would at least admit the crimes he did, Zhang Cuishan felt that he really did disgrace his school. He could not tell them the actually culprit was his wife but by keeping quiet he endangered Wudang's reputation. So, Yu Lianzhou feared that they would loose this fight, because it would be probable that the other 4 heroes would have to look after him and Zhang Cuishan and weakening the formation. Yin Susu saw the pain of her husband and approached Kongwen, Kongzhi and Kongxing and confessed to what she did and chided the 3 reverends for being muddle-headed. Then, she told Zhang Cuishan to follow her inside, she went to Yu Daiyan and confessed to what she did 10 years ago and asked him to punish her.....(the rest is pretty much the same as the old editions). What I liked about this part was that Yin Susu showed how much she loved her husband and what a responsible woman she had become.

    5) Origins of Jiuyang (Laviathan has already posted this and I too have expressed my feelings about this). The origins are mentioned when Zhang Wuji is training Jiuyang in that cave and that Confucian, Taoist and Buddhist monk wrote how and why he wrote Jiuyang. (Again, I thought it was redundant and farfetched).
    By Laviathan:
    In the new edition, Zhang Wuji learns about Nine Yang's origins on the last page of the Lankavatara Sutra. It states that Wang Chongyang, after having obtained the Book of Nine Yin, travelled to Songshan one day and had a drinking contest with a certain guy. Wang Chongyang lost, and had to let the man read the entire Book of Nine Yin as a favour. This man used to be a Confucianist scholar in his youth and was exceptionally bright and educated. He later became a Taoist priest and acquired a vast amount of knowledge about Taoist principles and theories. But when he reached old age, he became a Buddhist monk for some unknown reason. When reading the Book of Nine Yin, the monk, with his superior intellect and knowledge, noticed that the Nine Yin martial arts were based on extreme Yin principles instead of a harmony between Yin and Yang. Realising that there must be "another way", he created the Art of Nine Yang and wrote the Book of Nine Yang inside the Sutra. This sutra somehow got into the Shaolin temple, so maybe the monk was a Shaolin member.

    6) When Zhang Wuji saw Yin Tianzheng and Song Yuanqiao fighting he was crying, because he recognized the stances both of them used and it reminded him of the times when his mother and father would train (using the same stances).

    7) The Ming cult has 3 capital orders and 5 minor orders. There are 12 holy sceptres in total, on the first 6 there is a martial arts engraved on it (learnt by Zhang Wuji and those Persians) on the other 6 the most important 8 rules of the Ming cult are engraved on it.
    Three capital orders:
    - Ming cultists are prohibited from becoming emperors, officials, kings, generals, etc. They rebel because they want to save the people not for their own gain. However, it is allowed to use those names when rebelling to attract support.
    - Ming cultists are not allowed to oppress the people and should do whatever is possible to ease the suffering of men.
    - Ming cultists are not to fight each other.
    Five minor orders:
    - Ming cultists are men and women of their words.
    - Ming cultists are to treat each other like brothers and sisters.
    - Respect your elders, brothers, sisters, parents and friends.
    - Treat women with respect
    - Protect the cult with your life and obey the commands of your seniors in the cult.

    8) The Dragon Sabre is made from Yang Guo's heavy iron sword. (like in the previous editions, he gave this sword to Guo Xiang; I don't know when he gave that sword to her). The Heavenly Sword is made from the Lady and Gentleman swords. There are two small chips on the sabre and sword just a few centimetres from the hilt. Use both weapons to saw through the chips, only those two weapons are powerful enough to break each other. Inside the weapons is a metal map to Peach Blossom Isle and the location of the manuals.

    9) Manuals: Yue Fei's art of war and Jiuyin Zhenjing, plus various Peach Blossom Isle and Hong Qigong's martial arts. There isn't a manual on 18 Dragon Subduing Palms anymore. The Jiuyin Bone claws and other skills used by Mei Chaofeng have been slightly altered by Huang Yaoshi, those are still evil skills but not as vile as used by Mei Chaofeng. Huang Yaoshi was saddened by the deaths of Chen Xuanfeng and Mei Chaofeng, therefore he made some changes to this martial arts.
    When Xiangyang fell, Guo Xiang was in Sichuan province and when she rushed back it was too late. Guo Jing and Huang Rong did not give the sword and/or sabre to Guo Fu, because they knew she was too reckless and dumb. (Miejue Shi-tai told this to Zhou Zhiruo).

    10) The Yang family must be aware of the secret of the sword and sabre, therefore Miss Yang was able to deduce what Zhou Zhiruo did and exposed her crimes.

    11) The dialogue in which Miejue Shi-tai forces Zhou Zhiruo is moved, we do not see this scene when they are at the pagoda. Instead when Zhou is exposed she thinks back and then we are able to read about the dialogue.

    12) Zhou Zhiruo was thinking of killing all 4 of them on that island, but she could not do it because she realized that she was madly in love with Zhang Wuji.

    13) Yelu Qi mastered all 18 stances of the Dragon-Subduing palms, in the previous editions this was never really clear. But now it is! Furthermore it seems that Xiao Feng made the alterations from 28 to 18 and Xuzhu was responsible for returning this martial arts back to the Beggar's Union after Xiao Feng's death.

    14) Zhu Yuanzhang tried to force Zhang Wuji to give up leadership of the Ming cult by bringing his army and questioning Zhang Wuji about Zhao Min. The truth is that the Ming Cult lost control of the army leaders, those army leaders were still Ming cultists but they more or less gathered their own support and with their army they have become quite autonomous. This was something that Yang Xiao, Fan Yao and others realised and they knew they could not kill Zhu Yuanzhang and endanger further alienation from the other army leaders. The fact is in order to topple the Yuan dynasty, Zhu Yuanzhang had to stay alive.
    Zhao Min vowed to leave the central plains when everything was over, she smiled it was up to Zhang Wuji whether he wants to follow her or not.

    15) The 3 Du-generation monks did not kill Kunlun He Taichong, Madame He and those 2 other Kunlun experts. The Du monks easily defeated and wounded them and Yuanzhen quickly stepped forward to kill the 4 of them. The Du monks were angry at that, and said there was no need to kill them.

    16) Song Qingshu is not killed by Zhang Sanfeng, but succumbed to his injuries at Mount Wudang. HOWEVER, he was not forgiven by anyone!

    17) Xiao Chao sent emissaries to return the other 6 sceptres to the Ming Cult, Zhang Wuji "stole" the first 6 from the Persians. In return he gave the a copy of the Qiankun martial arts back to Xiao Chao. But the real reason behind this was that Xiao Chao missed Zhang Wuji and really wanted to make contact with him once more. It was very sweet, because if you can remember from previous editions and tv adaptions. Xiao Chao was making some clothes for Wuji when she was in that in that inn when Wuji was rescueing those people in the pagoda. She finished making those clothes and sent them to Zhang Wuji along with the sceptres.

    18) Zhang Wuji became disillusioned when he could not save the life of a general and address the death of Han Lin'er and with that he left the leadership of the Ming Cult in the hands of Yang Xiao, Fan Yao and left the Central Plains with Zhao Min. And he did not want to break the capital order of the Ming cult.

    19) Zhou Zhiruo's wish was that Zhang Wuji could not marry Zhao Min, Zhang Wuji complied. However, he added that without being married it would not prevent him from loving her or having children with her. Zhou Zhiruo did not mind that. In the end Zhang Wuji was thinking who he loved most (all 4 girls), he really did not know the answer. This does NOT mean, he will leave Zhao Min. Because he knows very well the sacrifices Zhao Min made for him.

    20) There are 5 elders of Kongtong in all the editions. The first elder is Guan Neng, second Zong Weixia, third elder Tang Wenliang, fourth elder Chang Jingzhi. But the fifth elder never had a name and he does not have one in the third edition either. I would have hoped that Jin Yong would at least try to give that 5th elder a name.

    21) Granny Golden Flower says she and her husband were poisoned by an old Buddhist monk of the western regions working for the Mongolians. In the past it was a mute, 'Tou Tuo" from the western regions working for the Mongolians.

    22) The comment Zhang Wuji made to Zhou Zhiruo about how Zhang Sanfeng thought he might not have reached Guo Jing's level of martial arts is gone. The reason is that in the older editions, Zhou Zhiruo started to train Jiuyin on the isle but now she does have the manuals yet. So the two of them cannot have that talk about martial arts and the comment is therefore gone.

    23) When Zhang Wuji took Zhang Sanfeng's hand at Mt Wudang, Zhang Sanfeng thought that only experts like reverend Jueyuan, Guo Jing, Yang Guo and others had such powerful internal energy. Yang Guo's name is on that list too.

    24) Zhou Zhiruo does not fake a suicide when Zhang Wuji met with Zhao Min anymore. Instead she leaves and disappears for a month or two (destination: Peach Blossom Isle). She finds the manuals and starts to train.

    25) The comment that Yuanzhen/Cheng Kun is as good as Duwei, Dujie and Dunan is gone. It is only commented that Yuanzhen was superior to Xie Xun. But that is something most people know.

    26) Zhang Wuji used his Jiuyang internal strength to eradicate 70% of the martial arts of the Xuanming elders. The 3 of them fought each other when the Xuanming elders were after the Jiuyin manual on Zhou Zhiruo. And Lu Zhangke wanted to have the manual and rape Zhou Zhiruo. Of course, they were foiled by Zhang Wuji. Their martial arts are even inferior to the 8 archers of Zhao Min.



    sumber: wuxiapedia

    Last edited by kupo; 07-10-2013 at 05:22 PM.

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