Quote Originally Posted by E = mc² View Post
@Om Pasing, iyah ganti ajah Om

@Serenade: iya, kalo mau dicocok-cocokin sama persis versi Perjanjian Lama dan versi Quran jelas gak akan bisa sama persis. Dalam versi Quran juga Abraham emang sengaja meninggalkan Hagar dan Ishmael di tanah liar, kering, dan sama sekali bukan jalur perdagangan/kafilah, apalagi deket pemukiman. Jauh dari mana-mana
Kalo Alkitab menyebutkan bahwa jarak usia Ishak dan Ismael sekitar 13 tahunan.
Walaupun tidak disebutkan pada usia berapa, Ismael saat diusir berusia belasan tahun.
Menurut tradisi Islam disebutkan saat itu Ismael masih bayi.

Kalo di sini, perbedaan tempatnya yg cukup mengganjal, sih, benernya.... tapi yah.... ini kan soal keyakinan.

Quote Originally Posted by gogon View Post
^ Muhammad berkiblat ke Masjidil Aqsa sebelum pindah kiblat ke Ka'bah. Memang posisi Aqsa ada di Yerussalem. Dan Muhammad merasa kurang sreg berkiblat ke sana

tanya lagi
dalam Nasrani, posisi Ishmael spt apa.. Termasuk nabi juga ngga?
Dan kalo kata Kaine, setelah pengusiran itu Ishmael sedikit sekali diceritakan kembali, apakah keturunannya masih dikisahkan juga dalam bible atau tidak..
Terakhir aku ngeliat daftar nabi, ga ada nama Ishmael di sana, tapi ga tau deh, mgkn ada yg lebih ngerti.
Tapi, ada nama2 dalam Alkitab tentang keturunan Ishmael dan sedikit cerita tentang apa yang mereka lakukan.
Aku kutip dari wikipedia aja, ya, yg lebih ringkasnya.


After roaming the wilderness for some time, Ishmael and his mother settled in the Desert of Paran, where he became an expert in archery. Eventually, his mother found him a wife from the land of Egypt.[6] They had 12 sons who became 12 tribal chiefs throughout the regions from Havilah to Shur (from Assyria to the border of Egypt).[7] His children are listed as follows:[8]
  1. Nebaioth
  2. Kedar, father of the Qedarites, (A northern Arab tribe that controlled the region between the Persian Gulf and the Sinai Peninsula). According to tradition, ancestor of Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe.[9]
  3. Adbeel, established a tribe in northwest Arabia.
  4. Mibsam
  5. Mishma
  6. Dumah, associated with Adummatu described as "a fortress of Arabia" in Saudi Arabia.
  7. Massa, father of a nomadic tribe that inhabited the Arabian desert toward Babylonia.
  8. Hadad
  9. Tema
  10. Jetur
  11. Naphish
  12. Kedemah


Daughter:
Mahalath or Basemath, the third wife of Esau.[10]
Ishmael also appeared with Isaac at the burial of Abraham.[11] Ishmael died at the age of 137.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael