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    pelanggan sejati surjadi05's Avatar
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    Gaji waiter/waitress nya udah gede


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    you meet someone
    you two get close
    its all great for awhile
    then someone stops trying
    Talk less, awkward conversations, the drifting
    No communication whatsoever
    Memories start to fade
    Then the person you know become the person u knew
    That how it goes. Sad isn't it?

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    salah satu indikatornya mungkin "separation of church (any church) and state"

    tergantung persepsi majunya gimana juga kali ya
    next year™

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    Sekulerisme?

    Apabila agama hanya dijadikan jualan politik yg ujung-ujungnya hanya untuk mendapatkan kekuasaan, mengapa tidak
    CURE SUNSHINE WA KAKKOSUGIRU.

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    tapi jujur, dibeberapa negara, moral boundaries emang sering ditabrak untuk mencapai advancement di dunia sains

    klo ga sekuler, mana bisa itu ada temuan stem cell, mana bisa ada clone monyet (dan domba jaman dulu)
    negara2 maju sering pake animal testing untuk obat2an, bahkan human testing (walo dengan consent)
    IMHO itu ga bisa klo ga sekuler, or at least nafas agama sudah tidak lagi menjadi yang utama di nadi kehidupan mereka

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