Logikanya, kalo dibius, tukang jagalnya ga repot2 sama hewannya. Mana ada sih buat kepentingan hewannya? Hewan dibius setengah sadar lho, ga totally pingsan atau dilistrik dulu, justru lebih menyiksa
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Logikanya, kalo dibius, tukang jagalnya ga repot2 sama hewannya. Mana ada sih buat kepentingan hewannya? Hewan dibius setengah sadar lho, ga totally pingsan atau dilistrik dulu, justru lebih menyiksa
boleh share, spt apa tempat ibadah orang atheist? :-?Quote:
Originally Posted by red_pr!nce
^yeee mbah pasing malah memperpanjang OOT ::hihi::
just curious aja bun
sedikit intermezzo boleh kan? :D
Misalnya gereja atheist, vihara atheist, dll.Quote:
Originally Posted by pasingsingan
Gereja aja banyak, ada gereja setan, gereja pastafarian, dll.
OOT dah.
::ngakak2::
yee ....
ujungnya cengengesan jg
ayo kembali keleptop :gebuk:
maksudnya kembali kepersoalan pemerintah belanda
yng tampaknya lebih concern kpd peri kebinatangan drpd peri kemanusiaan
btw, belanda kan penghasil susu sapi n produk turunannya jg yak?
knp hal tsb tidak dipersoalkan?, bukankah mengeksploitasi susu sapi
yng seharusnya untuk anak2 sapi itu jg melanggar HAK?
HAK = hak azasi kebinatangan
bukan cuma itu mbah....Quote:
Originally Posted by pasingsingan
Masa iya tuh sapi cuma "dieksploitasi" ambing susu
nya doang, giliran siap untuk kawin, cuma disuntik...
pantas saja banyak sapi jadi gila
^woe, bokap gwe mantri kawin suntik -_-
Bagi mereka, hewan diciptakan Tuhan untuk dimanfaatkan demi kepentingan manusia. :)
kalo gak salah sapi gila terjadi karena sapi dikasi makan protein dari sisa2 sapi juga, tulang2 sapi ditumbuk dan dicampurkan kedalam makanan sapi supaya sapinya mendapat protein tinggi, susunya kental dan tubuhnya cepat gemuk.
tapi alam tidak menghendaki kanibalisme dalam bentuk apapun, maka sapi yg diberi makan species yg sama akhirnya menderita penyakit aneh di otaknya.
penyakit ini pernah menyerang beberapa suku2 kanibal.
penyakit sapi gila disebabkan oleh prion, semacam protein hidup yg bukan virus, protein ini bisa memakan otak hidup2, otak jadi bolong2 kayak keju.
ya elah, Lan... serius banget loe nanggepin tulisan
canda gw :)
LAH makanyaQuote:
Originally Posted by red_pr!nce
gak ada kasus yng lebih keren apa, selaen ributin gemana-gemananya
cara matiin hewan konsumsi. Terkecuali dah pernah ada rombongan sapi
demo ke parlemen belanda menuntut perlakuan setara dng manusia.
idealnya beginiQuote:
Originally Posted by red_pr!nce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7-7...feature=colike
Mosok dibius malah bikin sakit? Kalo gitu orang yg mo operasi malah kesakitan donk. Dibius ya utk mengurangi rasa sakit... :))
Mungkin orang Belanda gak tega melihat kebo menggelepar setelah disembelih. Cuman kalo dibius dulu, misalnya kebo, berapa dosisnya? Trus gimana residunya? Berbahayakah jika manusia memakannya? Dst..dst...
Kalo muslim dan yahudi keberatan, ya impor saja daging onta atau kebo dari arab atau israel. Gitu aja kok repot... :))
mana ada hewan dibius pake obat bius... yang ada
di stun biar pingsan, jadi mudah nyembelihnya :)
^nah ini maksud gwe. Mikirnya pada obat bius manusia ya?
Pada kebayang gak pake obat bius manusia, trus dikosumsi? Yakin aman?
Ya liat dr sisi baiknya lha
Di belanda jadi ada profesi baru, ahli anestesi hewan
::ngakak2::
Namanya aja dibius, ya pake obat bius. :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronggolawe
http://digitool.library.colostate.ed...8xNjM0Ng==.pdf
Quote:
Time to loss of consciousness
Scientific researchers agree that sheep lose consciousness within 2 to l5 seconds after both carotid arteries are cut (Nangeroni and
Kennett, 1963; Gregory and Wotton, 1984; Blackmore, 1984). However, studies with cattle and calves indicate that most animals
lose consciousness rapidly, however, some animals may have a period of prolonged sensibility (Blackwore, 1984; Daly et al, 1988)
that lasts for over a minute. Other studies with bovines also indicate that the time required for them to become unconscious is more
variable than for sheep and goats (Munk et al., 1976; Gregory and Wotten, 1984). The differences between cattle and sheep can be
explained by differences in the anatomy of their blood vessels.
Observations by the first author of both calf and cattle slaughter indicate that problems with prolonged consciousness can be
corrected. When a shochet uses a rapid cutting stroke, 95% of the calves collapse almost immediately (Grandin 1987). When a
slower, less decisive stroke was used, there was an increased incidence of prolonged sensibility. Approximately 30% of the calves
cut with a slow knife stroke had a righting reflex and retained the ability to walk for up to 30 seconds.
Gregory (1988) provided a possible explanation for the delayed onset of unconsciousness. A slow knife stroke may be more likely
to stretch the arteries and induce occlusion. Rapid loss of consciousness will occur more readily if the cut is made as close to the jaw
bone as religious law will permit, and the head holder is loosened immediately after the cut. The chin lift should remain up.
Excessive pressure applied to the chest by the rear pusher gate will slow bleed out. Gentle operation of the restrainer is essential.
Observations indicate that calm cattle lose consciousness more rapidly an