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lily
20-01-2013, 02:30 PM
Tanya dong...

Kalian suka minum susu yang kayak gimana ?

Misal susu coklat , vanilla , ato strawberry.

Minum susu anak - anak ato khusus dewasa ? Misal yang buat tulang dll.

Suka susu cair ato susu bubuk ?

Trus misal pake susu bubuk , kalian biasa pake takaran sesuai yang tertulis di box ato kaleng , ato dilebihin ?

Pake tambahan gula ato laen - laen ga ?

Sharing ya...

Seputar kebiasaan minum susu :)

Thanks :)

Porcelain Doll
20-01-2013, 03:21 PM
Dulu sih demen susu bubuk...trus dimakan gitu aja buat cemilan tanpa air ::hihi::
dan lebih suka rasa coklat dibanding plain atau vanilla

kalo sekarang terbalik, lebih suka yg plain, tapi tetep full cream sih
susu cair ya :D
yg coklat cuma beberapa aja yg suka, ga semuanya (terlalu manis)
dan tanpa gula, soalnya susu bubuk sekarang (hampir) semua udah dicampur gula
udah ga seenak yg dulu lagi :(

takaran sih suka2

g minum susu yg umum, bukan khusus tulang, bukan juga susu anak2
kadang2 aja, ga tiap hari...pas lagi pengen atau buat campuran teh/kopi

cha_n
20-01-2013, 03:25 PM
uht ajalah... atau yang pasteurisasi.

choodee
20-01-2013, 03:26 PM
Sejak smp, gw hampir ga pernah lg minum susu bubuk ;D

Skg gw sukanya minum susu ultra,nyg udah lgsg minum. Gw prefer yg putih, kdg coklst jg, tp gw lebih suka putih. Soalnya putih bisa gw campur2 buat teh atau kopi jg. Ga suka susu stroberi, prasaan kek strup dikasi susu ;D

etca
20-01-2013, 03:36 PM
kebalikan ama popo, ga suka yg rasa macem2, suka rasa vanilla atau plain
mmm bukan susu anakanak, tapi juga bukan susu tulang.
setelah meninggalkan susu anakanak yg populer, sempat hampir 3 tahun minum susu e****e
ada historynya, beliin kakak biar kk ga segen klo gw beliin jadi gw ikutan minum. ;D
trus sebulan terakhir ini rutin minum kambing.

suka bubuk dan sesuai takaran.
tergantung kalau yg susu e****e ditambah gula 1/2 sdm;
kalau susu kambing kaga ditambah gula karena sudah ada gula arennya.
biasanya gw tambah beberapa sdm oat meal.
waktu minum sekitar pukul 07.30an, diseduh di kantor.

itsreza
20-01-2013, 03:44 PM
plain tanpa gula atau campuran lain. full cream, dengan lemak lebih enak ;D minum tiap hari
buat susu bubuk, tanpa lihat takaran, lebih suka agak kental, sekali minum antara 1-2 gelas.
ada susu cair lebih baik, plain/coklat, satu botol 800-1000ml bisa habis dalam sekali minum.

etca
20-01-2013, 03:58 PM
hah! 1 liter diminum dalam sekali minum, langsung glek2 habis segitu?
ga kembung?

red>,<hair
20-01-2013, 03:58 PM
g biasa minum susu tp maren akhirnya beli juga buat malam2 klo pengen bikin yg anget2
n apapun susunya kudu coklat
berhubung g suka yg terlalu manis jarang d tambahin gula klo bikin

Ronggolawe
20-01-2013, 04:02 PM
UHT saja, berdua ama Zhazha, abis seliter satu
hari :)

etca
20-01-2013, 04:28 PM
UHT kalau diminum dalam keadaan perut kosong kok gw moncor2 yak. ::grrr::

Porcelain Doll
20-01-2013, 04:29 PM
@etca: justru sekarang g ga pernah lagi beli susu bubuk
yg cair aja...UHT/pasteurisasi kaya chan :D

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UHT kalau diminum dalam keadaan perut kosong kok gw moncor2 yak. ::grrr::

berarti ya ketahanan terhadap susu sapinya lemah

tuscany
20-01-2013, 06:01 PM
Pilihanku susu cair rendah/tanpa lemak, tanpa gula. Tapi susu biasa gini kalsiumnya ga cukup. Mesti nambah ntar dengan suplemen.

lily
20-01-2013, 06:24 PM
Btw kalian kalo minum susu rutin setiap hari ? Berapa kali ?

Trus kalo yang minum UHT seliter sekali minum , itu tiap hari ato berapa hari sekali ?

Kalo sehari minum UHT seliter , sebulan berapa euy... Mahal...

Ronggolawe
20-01-2013, 06:43 PM
Mahal?
30liter sebulan kali 13000 = 390rb sebulan... itu
sih murah banget :)

sedangkan harga dancow 200gram = 14.000
1 takaran susu bubuk full cream adalah 3 sen
dok makan (kira-kira 40gram) plus 180ml air ha
ngat.... jadi susu dancow tadi setara 1 liter su
su...


dari sini sudah ketahuan dancow lebih mahal dari
UHT.... belum dihitung air mineral 30 liter, kurang
lebih 1,6 galon dan listrik untuk pemanasan di dis
penser atau gas untuk kompor gas... belum ribet
nya, mengaduk pula :)

lily
20-01-2013, 09:26 PM
Iya ya 390 rb ya. Kok tadi saya ngitung hasilnya 3 juta ya :iamdead:

# salah itung

Porcelain Doll
20-01-2013, 09:33 PM
gubraks..:iamdead: susu apaan sampe 3 juta sebulan ;D
ga bisa makan yg lain dong itu...::ngakak2::::ngakak2::

lily
20-01-2013, 09:41 PM
Iya salah itung tadi hiks :iamdead:

AsLan
20-01-2013, 09:58 PM
masa minum susu 13rb sehari bisa jadi 3 juta sebulan ? :))

itsreza
20-01-2013, 10:25 PM
hah! 1 liter diminum dalam sekali minum, langsung glek2 habis segitu?
ga kembung?

iya glek-glek abis. kembung karena cairan, keadaan jelek kadang sakit perut, tapi jarang terjadi.

cha_n
20-01-2013, 11:12 PM
yang suka glek glek susu seliter abis itu ayahnya hegel...

aku suka ultra. plain boleh coklat juga oke. kalau pasteurisasi apa aja oke. tapi fav cimory. rasa teh hijau enak, banana stroberi coklat enak semua

River
21-01-2013, 12:43 AM
tiap pagi minum segelas, susu bubuk coklat m*l* campur full cream d*nc*w
isi gula dikit ajah
takaran.. ee karna beli susu sachetan, jadi takarannya 2 sachet sekali minum..

ndugu
21-01-2013, 12:51 AM
prasaan saya jarang deh minum susu bubuk. :mikir:

dulu di kampung kami langganan susu botolan yang dideliver tiap hari, yang masih harus dimasak (dididihkan), biasa ibuku nyiapin sebiji coklat ato permen biar anak2nya yang cerewet mau minum :cengir: biasa musti dipaksa sih :cengir:

skarang juga saya minumnya juga yang cair. tapi bukan kotak-an yang dikasi perasa ini itu ya, kurang sreg aja ::elaugh:: abis saya liat susu kotakan gini biasa bisa tahan lama banget, ini pengawetnya ntah brapa banyak kali ya. trus biasa juga manis banget, mungkin juga saya ga terbiasa. tapi saya inget dulu di kampung saya suka ultramilk yang coklat :mrgreen: tapi susu kotakan gini saya jarang2 sih minumnya.

susu cair yang biasa saya beli di sini biasa ga tahan lebih dari seminggu, dan harus disimpen dalam kulkas. kalo ngga, ntar jadi asem. dan biasanya dalam seminggu saya minum 1-2 liter deh. dan berhubung saya ga suka minum susu (tapi dokter suruh minum susu buat asupan kalsium), maka biasa saya bikin milo tapi pake susu. just for the taste aja sih :cengir:

tuscany
21-01-2013, 01:15 AM
Minumnya tiap hari. I am milk lover ever since I got the first one.

Biasanya sih minum sekitar segelas atau dua gelas per hari, kadang campur oatmeal buat sarapan. Pas rajin exercise, aku tambah whey supaya nggak kekurangan protein. Sekarang baru beli whey, tapi exercise nya masih mogok ::ngakak2::

lily
21-01-2013, 09:21 AM
hampir 3 tahun minum susu e****e
ada historynya, beliin kakak biar kk ga segen klo gw beliin jadi gw ikutan minum. ;D
trus sebulan terakhir ini rutin minum kambing.

suka bubuk dan sesuai takaran.
tergantung kalau yg susu e****e ditambah gula 1/2 sdm;
kalau susu kambing kaga ditambah gula karena sudah ada gula arennya.
biasanya gw tambah beberapa sdm oat meal.
waktu minum sekitar pukul 07.30an, diseduh di kantor.
Susunya etca e****e itu apa ya ? Kok ga bisa nebak ya...

Trus kalo yang susu kambing itu cair ya ca ?

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masa minum susu 13rb sehari bisa jadi 3 juta sebulan ? :))
Salah itung om. Kelebihan nol pas itung.

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aku suka ultra. plain boleh coklat juga oke. kalau pasteurisasi apa aja oke. tapi fav cimory. rasa teh hijau enak, banana stroberi coklat enak semua

Pasteurisasi itu kayak Yakult bukan ya ? Ato yoghurt sih ?

serendipity
24-01-2013, 11:20 PM
sekarang lagi suka minum susu dai*ond atau kalo lagi gak sempet beli, selalu ada cadangan fris*an fla*.. :ngopi: kadang campur susu coklat juga

lily
02-02-2013, 11:06 AM
Dulu waktu saya kecil , ama Grandma tiap pagi dikasi susu Frisian Flag + kuning telor mentah , dicampur di susu panas. Rasa susunya jadi kental dan manis. Saya sempat heran kenapa nih susu kuning - kuning sih di permukaannya , tapi berhubung enak , ya diminum aja.

Pas udah gedean , ogah saya. Mentah begono.

Terus saya sering dikasi Mama , susu beruang Bear Brand punya Nestle. Itu susu cair dikemas di kaleng. Saya suka minum itu dan ga diare , walopun saya tau itu susu sapi. Sekali minum sekaleng.

Trus sering juga minum Dutch Lady berbagai rasa. Beli botol gede literan , abisnya 3 hari kali.

Kalo ke Tretes , suka beli susu sapi di botol gede seliter. Itu saya suka minum ama selaput - selaputnya (ga tau apaan). Kalo Koko selalu dibuang , saya sih telen aja.

Kalo sekarang , minum susu cuma pas weekend aja. Itupun selalu diare malemnya ato besoknya.

Kalo di resto , saya suka pesan es susu kedelai. Kalo di mall , suka beli Quickly milk tea.

Saya alergi susu sapi ama produk bahan susu sapi , jadi ya solusinya emang cuma susu kedelai. Tapi tetap aja saya minum susu sapi , kalo pengen.

Ronggolawe
02-02-2013, 11:47 AM
Pasteurisasi itu kayak Yakult bukan ya ? Ato yoghurt sih ?
pasteurisasi itu pemanasan susu hingga suhu 70C
secara berulang-ulang, biasanya setelah dikemas
dengan kemasan tetrapak, akan tahan hingga 30
hari bila disimpan pada suhu dingin

lily
02-02-2013, 01:31 PM
Ow kayak Yakult kan ya ?

Thanks ya om Ronggo :)

cha_n
02-02-2013, 02:29 PM
beda sama yakult. yakult itu susunya dikasih bakteri supaya asam menghasilkan fermentasi.
kalau pasteurisasi dipanaskan.

kupo
02-02-2013, 03:33 PM
ada yg berpendapat minum susu bisa meningkatkan resiko kanker payudara.. ::ungg::


By Neal D. Barnard, M.D. -- PCRM's "Good Medicine" -- Winter, 1997
When researchers examine the differences in breast cancer rates in various countries, a surprising factor lurks in the background. In addition to the factors already under suspicion -- dietary fat, alcohol, hormone treatments, and chemical exposures -- several studies have implicated milk and other dairy products as possible contributors to breast cancer risk. It is just not the grease dripping out of a cheese pizza that is under scrutiny. Even skim milk is implicated.

Jessica Outwater of Princeton University looked into why milk might cause cancer. In her research at PCRM, she found that cow's milk is veritable cocktail of cancer-causing chemicals. Her report, published in Medical Hypotheses in December, explains these surprising, potentially lifesaving findings.

The First Clues

Milk is designed by nature to help infants grow. Human milk brings an infant to the stage where he or she can eat solid food. Cow's milk nurtures a baby calf until he or she is big enough to graze. Just as an old-fashioned choke adjusts the gasoline mixture to help an automobile get started, mother's milk helps a tiny body to grow rapidly. And just as a car's choke is harmful at highway speeds, it may be that the growth factors in milk can be risky for adults, perhaps even encouraging the growth of cancer cells.

Many human population studies have shown that dairy product use correlates with breast cancer rates. One interesting example comes from Seventh-day Adventists. Nearly all Adventists avoid tobacco, alcohol, and caffeine, and are generally health conscious. But about half are vegetarians and half are not. As you would expect, the vegetarians have much lower rates of many diseases, including some forms of cancer. But breast cancer rates are about the same for the both Adventist group -- vegetarians and non-vegetarians.

These vegetarians, however, are not generally vegans. While they avoid the animal fat in burgers and fried chicken, they will get much of it back in a cheese casserole. When breast cancer rates among Adventists are compared to dairy product consumption, a pattern emerges: the more dairy a woman consumes, the higher her risk.

Most other population studies show the same pattern. The higher the dairy product consumption, the higher the breast cancer risk. In some of these studies, the higher risk remains even when the effect of fat is removed, suggesting that the animal fat in milk may not be the only problem. Rather estrogens, chemical contaminants, and a growth-promoting peptide called IGF-I are the prime suspects in breast cancer investigations.

Estrogens in Milk

Farmers impregnate dairy cattle every year because a pregnant cow produces more milk. (When the calves are born, needless to say, the females join the dairy herd; males end up on the veal counter.) A pregnant cow produces extra estrogens that end up in her milk. Farmers actually look for these estrogens in milk as a sign that the impregnation was successful.

Excess estrogen is well-known for making breast cancer cells multiply, which is why doctors avoid prescribing estrogen supplements to cancer patients. Drugs that counter estrogen's actions, such as tamoxifen, are important in breast cancer treatment.

A liter of milk contains 4 to 14 nanograms of 17-b-estradiol. Whether these hormone traces have biological effects remain unclear. In addition, the fat in milk -- like fat in any food -- rapidly causes excess estrogen to be produced in a woman's body. The effect is rapid. Within a few weeks of increasing or decreasing the fat content of the diet, the estrogen level in the blood stream is readjusted higher or lower. Milk also has no fiber at all, and fiber is part of nature's way of eliminating excess estrogens.

IGF-I

Of even greater concern is a compound called insulin-like growth factor, IGF-I. As its name indicates, IGF-I stimulates growth in a child's body. The amount of IGF-I declines as years go by.

Unfortunately, IGF-I not only encourages growth of normal cells; it also encourages breast cancer cells to multiply. Mixed with cancer cells in the test tube, it causes them to reproduce; IGF-I is even more potent in this regard than estrogens. A little IGF-I goes a long way. Growth-promoting effects occur at concentrations of just one microgram per liter. IGF-I may also be able to cause normal cells to transform into cancer cells.

There are about 30 micrograms of IGF-I in a liter of cow's milk, although the amount varies with the stage of pregnancy. It is identical to human IGF-I and is not destroyed by the process of pasteurization.

Little is known as to the extent to which humans absorb IGF-I from cow's milk. While it was once thought that protein fragments were completely broken apart during digestion, it is now known that proteins and peptides are often absorbed intact. In fact, several different proteins from cow's milk are known to pass from the digestive tract into the blood stream and even into the breast issue of women who drink milk. Similar compounds, such as epidermal growth factor, are not destroyed by stomach acid and are apparently absorbed, suggesting that the same is true of IGF-I.

IGF-I is a normal part of mother's milk and of infants' diets prior to weaning. However, milk consumption after the age of weaning means prolonged intake of IGF-I.

If IGF-I is a problem, bovine growth hormone (BGH) will make it worse. BGH is used by some dairy farmers to increase milk production. BGH-treated cows produce two to four times more IGF-I, with a corresponding increase of the peptide in milk.

When the Food and Drug Administration approved BGH for use, it was aware of its tendency to increase IGF-I concentration, but approved the hormone anyway because IGF-I did not seem to cause a major effect on the body weight of rats. The experiments, however, had little relevance to humans.

As for BGH itself, traces of it are found in cow's milk even after pasteurization. Needless to say, financial interests overwhelmed both science and good sense when BGH was approved. BGH manufacturer Monsanto made payments to the American Dietetic Association and the American Medical Association, both of which issued favorable statements about BGH on the same day.

Organochlorines

Because pesticides and industrial chemicals tend to dissolve into fat, they end up in the mammary gland's fatty tissues and easily pass into milk. This is true for human breast milk and also for cow's milk. When three carcinogens found in Israeli milk (DDT, a-BHC, and g-BHC) were banned in that country, breast cancer deaths dropped. While this may be a mere coincidence, evidence for a casual relationship comes from the fact that organochlorines have estrogen-like effects. Moreover, the tissues surrounding human breast cancers have been found to have higher concentrations of organochlorines than other tissues.

We have looked at the link between milk and cancer of the ovary, which appears to result form a breakdown product of the milk sugar, galactose. Other parts of dairy products may exert damaging effects to other parts of the body.

It may be that the weaning process has an important biological function -- that of stopping the exposure to compounds that help during infancy but are dangerous on long-term exposure.

Healthy Calcium Balance

With all the criticism milk has earned for its artery-clogging fat and sensitizing proteins, the dairy industry rests its case on one last selling point: calcium. Yet that supposed benefit is suspect as well.

True, milk contains calcium. But only 30 percent of it is absorbed by the human body, less than for typical green leafy vegetables. In fact, green vegetables and beans provide plenty of calcium, along with vitamins, fiber, complex carbohydrates, and essential fatty acids that milk lacks.

Surprisingly, population studies show that a high calcium intake does not insure against osteoporosis. Countries with a high calcium intake, such as Sweden or Finland, tend to have much higher fracture rates than Asian countries where milk is not commonly consumed.
The most important step in maintaining calcium balance is to stop calcium losses caused by these five factors:

Animal protein. Eliminating animal proteins from your diet can cut your calcium losses in half.

Excess salt. Cutting your sodium intake in half can reduce the daily calcium requirement by about 160 milligrams.

Caffeine. If you have more than two cups of coffee per day, drink decaf.

Tobacco. Smokers increase their hip fracture risk by over 40 percent.

Lack of exercise. Sedentary people lose bone tissues.

Don't forget vitamin D, which is important for healthy bones. Ten minutes of summer sun on the face, hands, and arms two or three times per week produces all the vitamin D you'll need. For those who get infrequent sun exposure, any common daily multivitamin provides adequate vitamin D.

sumber
http://www.jivdaya.org/milk_and_breast_cancer.html

lily
02-02-2013, 03:48 PM
Pasteurisasi itu susu sapi kemasan ya ?

Btw kupo , dulu juga ada yang bilangin saya sih , jangan tiap hari minum susu kedelai katanya bisa kanker , tapi masa iya sih.

Btw spoiler saya liat Senin ya. Maklum ga depan laptop :nangis2:

kupo
02-02-2013, 04:10 PM
^^ ok.. itu isinya cuma copy paste dari sini : http://www.jivdaya.org/milk_and_breast_cancer.html
kalau menurut artikel disitu , yg meningkatkan resiko kanker itu susu sapi.

abis baca2 artikel di internet, ternyata cowok bisa kena kanker payudara juga...X_X

lily
02-02-2013, 04:34 PM
Lha iya , udah ada kejadiannya kan...

Btw bicara kanker payudara , ada lo model , ibunya pernah kena kanker payudara , trus meninggal. Nah model ini takut kalo sampe bernasib sama ama ibunya , jadi dia angkat kedua payudaranya , jadi dia ga punya payudara lagi , dan ga ada kemungkinan kena kanker payudara. Katanya begitu...