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    sudah baca dari awal, kok ngga sesuai judul, kok
    yang ada cuma orang yang dikebiri kemaluannya,
    bukan mengkebiri kemaluan sendiri

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    judulnya sendiri rancu, kalo kasim kayaknya ga ada yang dengan sukarela mengebiri dirinya sendiri deh

    mungkin beda kalo praktek castrati (anak laki-laki yang dikebiri/mengebiri sendiri untuk mempertahankan suara kanak-kanaknya yang tinggi) di Italia yang bertahan sampe menjelang akhir abad 19, berhenti karena dilarang oleh paus saat itu. kalo praktik itu mungkin sengaja dengan kemauan sendiri sih ^^

    btw, ada yang ngenes dari cerita kasim

    Spoiler for the last eunuch:
    (Reuters) - Only two memories brought tears to Sun Yaoting's eyes in old age -- the day his father cut off his genitals, and the day his family threw away the pickled remains that should have made him a whole man again at death.
    China's last eunuch was tormented and impoverished in youth, punished in revolutionary China for his role as the "Emperor's slave" but finally feted and valued, largely for outlasting his peers to become a unique relic, a piece of "living history."
    He had stories of the tortuous rituals of the Forbidden City, Emperor Pu Yi's last moments there and the troubled puppet court run by the Japanese during the 1930s. He escaped back to the heart of a civil war, became a Communist official and then a target of radical leftists before being finally left in peace.
    This turbulent life has been recorded in the "The Last Eunuch of China" by amateur historian Jia Yinghua, who over years of friendship drew out of Sun the secrets that were too painful or intimate to spill to prying journalists or state archivists.
    He died in 1996, in an old temple that had become his home, and his biography was finally published in English this year.
    It unveils formerly taboo subjects like the *** life of eunuchs and the emperor they served, the agonizing castrations often done at home and also often lethal, and the incontinence and shame that came with the promise of great power.
    "He was conflicted over whether to tell the secrets of the emperor," said Jia, adding that Sun preserved a loyalty to the old system because he had dedicated so much of his life to it.
    "I was the only person he trusted. He did not even confide in his family, after they threw away his 'treasure,'" Jia added, using traditional eunuchs' slang for their preserved genitals.
    They were discarded during the chaotic 1966-76 Cultural Revolution, when having anything from the "old society" could put lives at risk.
    "He only cried about two things; when telling me about the castration and about the loss of his 'treasure'," said Jia, who works as an energy bureaucrat, but devotes all his spare time to chronicling the dying days of Imperial China after a childhood enthralled by the eunuchs and princes who were his neighbors.
    STERILITY AND POWER
    Over years of painstaking research, he has gleaned arcane details about every aspect of palace life, along with secrets about the emperor's sexuality and cruelty that would look at home on the front page of tabloid newspapers.
    For centuries in China, the only men from outside the imperial family who were allowed into the Forbidden City's private quarters were castrated ones. They effectively swapped their reproductive organs for a hope of exclusive access to the emperor that made some into rich and influential politicians.
    Sun's impoverished family set him on this painful, risky path in hopes that he might one day be able to crush a bullying village landlord who stole their fields and burned their house.
    His desperate father performed the castration on the bed of their mud-walled home, with no anesthetic and only oil-soaked paper as a bandage. A goose quill was inserted in Sun's urethra to prevent it getting blocked as the wound healed.
    He was unconscious for three days and could barely move for two months. When he finally rose from his bed, history played the first of a series of cruel tricks on him -- he discovered the emperor he hoped to serve had abdicated several weeks earlier.
    "He had a very tragic life. He had thought it was worthwhile for his father, but the sacrifice was in vain," Jia said, in a house stacked with old books, newspapers and photos.
    "He was very smart and shrewd. If the empire had not fallen there is a high chance he would have become powerful," Jia added.
    The young ex-emperor was eventually allowed to stay in the palace and Sun had risen to become an attendant to the empress when the imperial family were unceremoniously booted out of the Forbidden City, ending centuries of tradition and Sun's dreams.
    "He was castrated, then the emperor abdicated. He made it into the Forbidden City then Pu Yi was evicted. He followed him north and then the puppet regime collapsed. He felt life had played a joke at his expense," Jia said.
    Many eunuchs fled with palace treasures, but Sun took a crop of memories and a nose for political survival that turned out to be better tools for surviving years of civil war and ideological turbulence that followed.
    "He never became rich, he never became powerful, but he became very rich in experience and secrets," Jia said.
    (Editing by Nick Macfie and Bill Tarrant)
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    ....entah kenapa saya merasa trid-trid macam begini muncul untuk suatu grand design tujuan tertentu
    lama2? butuh satu subforum khusus bahas soal burung
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    artikel ini dapet dari forum sebelah , saya lupa sih forum apa.

    pas buka - buka gitu di lounge nya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heihachiro View Post
    haha, eunuch sendiri asalnya dari bahasa Yunani "eunouchos" yang artinya "penjaga tempat tidur". jadi sudah jelas fungsi kasim dulunya ya emang buat menjaga harem alias keputren kaisar dengan jaminan anak-anak yang keluar dari para selir merupakan anak biologis dari si kaisar

    pada praktiknya, kasim juga bertugas untuk mengurus keperluan pribadi keluarga kerajaan sehingga seringkali jadi teman main para raja/pangeran dari kecil sampai dewasa, sehingga biasanya kasim punya pengaruh yang cukup besar di kerajaan, terutama Cina kuno

    kasim umumnya diambil dari tawanan atau budak anak-anak yang dikebiri dari kecil khusus untuk dijadikan kasim. dalam sejarah Cina kuno, kasim sangat jarang punya kekuatan militer, biasanya kekuatannya hanya sebatas pengaruh atas kaisar. tapi ada kasim yang mencapai kekuasaan militer tertinggi sebagai laksamana agung yang kuilnya tersebar di nusantara, yaitu Zheng He alias Cheng Ho alias Sam Po Kong
    jadi dulu di China , cowok yang normal cuma Kaisar ama keturunannya kali ya ?

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    btw saya pernah diceritain ama teman saya.

    waktu teman saya ama adiknya cowok masi kecil di kampung , adiknya suka ga pake celana maen ama ayam.

    one day , pas ga pake celana , burungnya dipatuk ama induk ayam , soalnya dikira cacing.

    sejak itu , adiknya selalu pake celana.

    serem...
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    ehh....gw baca 'eunuchs' itu : e n a k s

    bener gak seh pronunciation -nya ?
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    ^^ kalo saya cek di gugel, pronouncenya kayak "yunek" gitu coba aja cek disini

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    Dulu pernah nulis tentang pengkebirian di forum lama, tapi udah bubar...

    Ceritanya,
    Pengkebirian itu ada 2 macem, ada yg dipotong bijinya doang ada yg dipotong semua.

    Nah awalnya, China mengalami banyak masa sulit, entah karena banir, kelaparan, kekeringan ataupun perang berkepanjangan. Saat itu kehidupan rakyat jelata sangat sulit sehingga banyak orang menjual anaknya untuk menjadi kasim di instana raja.
    Kehidupan orang kasim jauh lebih baik daripada mati kelaparan, sehingga saat itu banyak bermunculan rumah2 kebiri yg menyediakan jasa pengkebirian bagi anak laki2 yg hendak dikirim ke istana.
    Biasanya orang kasim di istana raja itu cuma dipotong bijinya doang. Tapi ternyata batang yg tersisa itu masih bisa ereksi !
    Maka tak lama kemudian orang2 kasim ini menjadi "mainan" bagi para selir.

    Selir2 raja berjumlah ribuan, banyak diantara mereka yg hanya sesekali mendapat giliran tidur dengan raja, bahkan banyak yg seumur hidup tidak pernah bertemu raja, maka kedatangan orang kasim tanpa biji ini sangat menyenangkan mereka.
    Para kasim tak berbiji ini bisa ereksi lebih lama dan tidak beresiko membuat hamil.
    Tapi tak lama kemudian praktik ini dihapuskan, para kasim istana di kebiri untuk kedua kalinya, setelah itu mereka jadi gundul plontos.

    Teknik2 pengkebirian ada bermacam2, mulai dari dipotong dengan pisau tajam, diikat dengan tali atau digilas dengan batu penggilingan.
    50% orang yg dikebiri biasanya tewas karena kehabisan darah atau infeksi.

    Budaya pengkebirian terjadi diseluruh dunia, biasanya dilakukan terhadap tawanan perang.

    Pasukan Romawi biasanya memotong kelamin tawanan musuh sebagai tanda kemenangan, juga untuk menghancurkan semangat pemberontakan.

    Orang Indian juga biasa memotong kelamin musuh2nya di tiang siksaan.
    Tawanan yg hendak di eksekusi diikat ke tiang kayu lalu seorang wanita tua memotong kelamin tawanan tersebut sebagai awal dari siksaan sebelum eksekusi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojox View Post
    ehh....gw baca 'eunuchs' itu : e n a k s bener gak seh pronunciation -nya ?
    udah bener kok jox................
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan
    Teknik2 pengkebirian ada bermacam2, mulai dari dipotong dengan pisau tajam, diikat dengan tali atau digilas dengan batu penggilingan.
    50% orang yg dikebiri biasanya tewas karena kehabisan darah atau infeksi.
    Damn! kenapa gw harus baca ini sih
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    wadoh lagi2 lily..... doyan amat non bikin thread tentang burung... sekarang tentang burung yang disembelih.... mana gw juga ngilu lg baca yang di quote ama si miegila

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    digilas dengan batu penggilingan, hasilnya gimana ya?

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    Gak tau, elu aja yang coba, za
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    coba aslan atau lily posting video prosesi eunuchs, pasti thread ini lebih menarik

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    ^
    lily sebagai subjek, aslan sebagai objek?




    *ngacir*
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    om Aslan udah minus. kasian kalo dia yang jadi objek.

    coba kita cari yang ukurannya plus aja.

    ayo sapa yang ukurannya plus ? silahkan ngaku.
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    salah satu orang yang udah menjalani Eunuchs

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    lo seren , itu cowok , motong burungnya supaya jadi cewek asli ?

    btw Nong Poy itu juga mutilasi burung kan ya ?

    saya pernah liat burungnya dipotong trus dimasukin di dalem kulitnya gitu , dari sebuah artikel , lupa darimana.
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    adooooohhhh syereeeemmm.mau enak kok nolak?pipisnya gimana itu?kasiaaan...

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    mungkin kalo dipotong , pipisnya jadi cepet keluar kali ya ?

    ato mungkin udah dibuatin kayak punya cewek gitu
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